2 POINT SHOT!

2 POINT SHOT!2020-09-01T17:13:33+10:00
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  • Avatar photoIan Harkin
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      It’s amazing what Lightning managed to do in rd 2. Despite not being successful with a single super shot, Lightning outscored Magpies 20-13 in the power play portion of their game. Vixens have been consistently good, while Firebirds have really been caught short in power plays.

      Avatar photoIan Harkin
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        Super Netball’s two-point shot is forcing Australian captain Caitlin Bassett to the bench. What does that mean for the Diamonds?

        https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-10/super-netball-two-pointer-bench-diamonds-captain-caitlin-bassett/12539368

        CharlesWB
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          To remedy the low percentage of Super Shots going in, perhaps next year SSN will introduce a kind of flat surface above and behind the net….

          :negative: :scratch: B-)

          JR
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            I wasn’t a fan of the 2 point shot in the last five minutes of each quarter. It caused chaos during the first two rounds and I was close to stopping watching at all. But I did watch Bassett’s 200th game last night.

            There didn’t seem to be the frenetic ‘pass it out to a shooter in the 2 point zone’ like in the games in the first two rounds. Stanton was out in the zone calling for it, but the Fowler wasn’t tossing the ball back to her. Just felt like, ‘if we’re here in the 2 point zone, we’ll go for it…but not looking for it’. Great. Vixens play tonight against Lightning – top of the ladder clash (if that matters after only two rounds!) – both have long bomb specialists on their teams…will be interesting to see what they do.

            Avatar photoIan Harkin
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              Some interesting stats from the first 3 rounds regarding last 5 min of each Q.

              In Rd 1, 60.3% of all shots (114 out of 189) in last 5 min were super shots. Of these 62.3% were successful. Success rate for all shots in this period was 72.5% and in total 208 points were scored.

              In Rd 2, there was a drop in volume and accuracy of super shots. 52.7% of all shots (107 out of 203) in last 5 min were super shots. Of these, only 45.8% were successful. Success rate for all shots in this period was 63.5% and in total 178 points were scored.

              In Rd 3, a further drop in volume of super shots but a rise in accuracy. 40.9% of all shots (74 out of 181) in last 5 min were super shots. Of these, 54.1% were successful. Success rate for all shots in this period was 74.6% and in total 175 points were scored.

              Theory: In rd 1, everyone just went for 2 pt shots and the defence hadn’t worked out strategies to combat it yet. By rd 2 the defence was getting smarter. The success rate dropped. By rd 3 teams were more hesitant and tended to put up 2 pt shots when more comfortable doing so.

              As a result, things have flipped. In round 1, 3 out of every 5 shots in the last 5 min of each quarter were super shots. By round 3 that has reversed so that now 3 out of every 5 shots in the last 5 min were regular shots.

              al_ex
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                I think the closeness of games has also played a role. For example, Gooden shot 9/10 Super Shots in Round 1 but in that match the players were just going to end to end nailing super shots and the Fever already had the game in the bag really. Glasgow nailed a lot of shots this round because again the T’Birds were trailing the Swifts by a large margin. It feels like the Super Shot is really only going to be used either A) when players are naturally in the position around the top of the circle (not further around towards the baseline), B) a defender gives away a penalty in the area and C) when teams are a long way behind and need super shots to either win or try and narrow an extended margin.

                Avatar photoIan Harkin
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                  JR
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                    Jenner and Hinchliffe ..one of the league’s best defensive pairing …yeah nah.

                    Avatar photoIan Harkin
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                      Some SSN stats…

                      This is how each team has performed over the course of the season so far, looking at only the first 10 mins of each quarter, when all goals are worth the same:

                      +19 Vixens
                      +12 Magpies
                      +12 Swifts
                      -2 Fever
                      -9 Firebirds
                      -9 Giants
                      -11 Thunderbirds
                      -12 Lightning

                      Now, this is how each team has performed in the last 5 mins of each quarter when super shots are available:

                      +29 Lightning
                      +24 Vixens
                      +7 Fever
                      +6 Giants
                      +0 Thunderbirds
                      -1 Swifts
                      -24 Magpies
                      -41 Firebirds

                      The amazing thing about that stat is that apart from round 1, Lightning has barely used the super shot. They’ve scored just 4 in the last 3 rounds. Their dominance in the power play has seemingly been based on tight smothering defence and just sticking to their regular plans.

                      JR
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                        The two point shot in two games yesterday has affected the current order of the teams for second, third and fourth.

                        Without the two point shot the current ladder would be Vixens, Fever, Swifts and Lightning.

                        Boy, need to give NA my feedback about 2 point shots (and too many timeouts) after today’s game.

                        Avatar photoIan Harkin
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                          With 1 game to come, this is how super shots have affected the ladder…

                          With SS:

                          Vixens 42
                          Lightning 36
                          Fever 34
                          Swifts 34

                          Firebirds 26
                          Giants 24
                          Tbirds 20
                          Magpies 4

                          Without SS:

                          Vixens 40
                          Fever 40
                          Swifts 36
                          Lightning 36

                          Firebirds 28
                          Giants 20
                          Tbirds 16
                          Magpies 4

                          Avatar photoMontyandpoppy
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                            Wow, this is incredible. Will never be published in the media though I’m sure…

                            JR
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                              Wow, very interesting Ian.

                              Fever big losers on points from the initiative, Vixens some advantage on points and Lightning big winners on ladder placings.

                              nuts4netty
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                                Any chance someone has done a ladder with no super shot but with the bonus points for quarters won?

                                Avatar photoIan Harkin
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                                  Not yet. Will work it out. Not easy as you have to go quarter by quarter. 56 games means 224 quarters.

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