2020 SSN ROUND 13 – VIXENS v FIREBIRDS

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  • al_ex
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    Watson is the most dominant and consistent midcourter in the world. When was the last time she had a genuinely catastrophic game? 2018?

    nettygalnettygal
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    I’m so conflicted about the Mi Mi situation. Agree it would have been lovely if the coaches had planned to have her come on towards the end of the game.

    But really feel for Dunkley!! From what I saw Mi Mi was standing to sub in only because Dunkley was cramping, not because of the round. But then Dunkley was fine and stayed on – which any other week would have been no problem and I’m sure the fact it was indigenous round didn’t even cross her mind. She was playing WA against the team that never upgraded her from training partner and continually chose Honey over her and she was playing fantastic (much better than Honey). After years not getting on court I can see how that didn’t cross her mind – and I don’t think people should be bagging her online! I’m sure if she could go back she would do it differently but really don’t think people should be criticising her online, she didn’t snub Mi Mi

    As to whether Mi Mi should have started, it would have been great but again, the best 7 should start.

    Definitely a broader problem that there aren’t more indigenous players represented, but tbh netball as a whole suffers from lack of diversity and generally more privileged players make it to the higher levels. Listening to the commentary on Sports Sunday where they were grilling Cath Cox was frustrating as of course there is more representation in football because they have so much more money to invest than netball, and the football codes have been a professional sport for a lot longer. A lot of netballers can’t afford to pursue a sport that at training partner and ANL level requires professional hours but not the pay. In saying that would love to see more investment and representation – unsure what the solution is?

    al_ex
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    Yeah it’s not just an issue with introducing more Indigenous Australians, but more non-white Australians generally. Have we ever had an Asian Australian play at national league level? It’s great to see Sunday Aryang and her sister thrive as they’re the only African Australians I can remember at this level.

    nettygalnettygal
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    Yeah agree! Hopefully now it’s becoming more professional the talent from all backgrounds won’t drop out earlier in the pathways

    Tully
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    Where are people bagging Dunkley?

    Al_ex maybe Carla Dziwoki?

    PICASSO123
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    Samason would’ve been the first Asian Australian if she didn’t suffer from her ACL which would’ve given her some court time at the Vixens. Samason is Filipino by the way. In addition, i do think the netball community in Australia does lack diversity as this was pointed out by Mkoloma when she first arrived at Swifts. Anyways, as a Pacific Islander I loved watching Gerrard play. She would always be the attraction of interest when the Diamonds would play the Ferns in Auckland as it was unusual seeing a Pacific Islander make the Diamonds team and being put up against the Ferns which consisted of many Pacific Islanders 😂

    nettygalnettygal
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    Saw a few comments on Facebook (🤦🏻‍♀️) and also tbh even Sue Gaudion’s comments that she should have gone off – when it looked like Mi Mi only stood up because of Dunkley cramping

    aqua301
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    Does Netball Australia have any programs for Indigenous/First Nations? They have U/17, U/19, U/21 & and even a squad for “Tall” players. I’m sure having an U/21 teams for Indigenous talent wouldn’t be difficult to set up and scout for?

    TB
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    I haven’t really watched any games of the Fbirds. Has MiMi been getting any court time, prior to this game?
    I thought she was generally a starter?

    If what I’ve been reading is true, the outcome of this game didn’t matter for the Fbirds? They aren’t making finals?

    If that is true, then it is very disappointing that Jencke didn’t give MiMi a go.

    JR
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    On ABC RN just now, they reported that Jenke said she made an error of judgement not putting Mi Mi on the court on Sunday, especially after Mi Mi had done so much to promote Indigenous Round.

    museboy
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    It appears Dunkley has been the better WA, so Mi Mi should only get on court if she’s earnt her place like anyone else. My biggest issue with this is the focus on Mi Mi and Jencke – Mi Mi has such a big weight on her shoulders that she shouldn’t have to bear alone, while Jencke is the only SSN coach that actually has a FN player in their squad! The question should be put to other coaches/systems as to why there aren’t more FN players – it’s unfair to place all the pressure on one person.

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    AllieC
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    I think Mi Mi should have started. It’s not like she hasn’t played this year and she’d had some cracking games earlier in the season. They could have seen how the game panned out and replaced her if needed. Yes Dunkley has earned her spot and I don’t want tokenism but FFS, it’s not like Mi Mi had been brought in from a community club. The statement from the Firebirds today made me feel worse about it.

    Ian HarkinIan Harkin
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    Basically agree 100% with what museboy has said.

    As the year has unfolded, Dunkley has proven to be the better WA and deserves her spot. It was certainly a mistake not to give Mi Mi some court time during the game, but I don’t like the idea that you should have to go away from what you consider to be your best starting team just to fit in with one special round.

    Fans of the other 7 teams are piling on, but I would ask them… what has your club done for indigenous players? How come you don’t have any indigenous players on your list?

    Ian HarkinIan Harkin
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    TB, Mi Mi started out the year as the WA, but as the season went on, her performances dropped. Dunkley has gone past her and is now the preferred option with Mi Mi getting little or no court time in the last 4 matches. Dunkley has played a full game at WA in 3 of the past 4 matches. They’ve won all 3.

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