2020 SSN ROUND 5 – LIGHTNING v GIANTS

That rule about the ball passing through the ring really needs to be clarified as I saw a two point shot awarded for leaving the hands before the whistle but not through the ring. Yet a different interpretation occurred in one of the other games because the ball didn’t pass through the ring before the whistle.

So, even after reading all of these very useful comments I still am a little unclear on something.
I thought the process was:
Rough or repeated play = a caution
Rough of repeated play again = “that’s now a warning”
Rough or repeated play a third time= send off for two minutes

Is the above process correct? And did it happen with Kristina?

Thank you for this clarification. I’ve heard commentators explaining the send off rule as best they could but I haven’t heard this mentioned at all. I think this information should be being discussed as widely as the rest! So she had been given a warning verbally? And then after that, the Koenen post incident happened and she was sent off?

Thanks al_ex. I missed that first warning in the 2nd quarter and didn’t hear the commentators talking about it (I’ve often thought that Sue should be quiet some times and watch the game). more. When the replayed the second warning – the Koenen incident – you could hear the umpire say ‘you’ve already been warned’. I didn’t hear that the first time.

Interesting to read the aftermath. I enjoyed the article in The Guardian, but don’t remember Sherian hitting the floor.

I think that the major issue here is that the vast majority of viewers – including disappointingly the channel 9 commentators – don’t know or understand the rules.

For example: I was listening to Bianca Chatfield on her “show” with Ash Braz this morning & neither of them knew the rule about the ball having to pass through the ring before the umpire’s end of play whistle. Bianca was suggesting the ball had to be on its downward flight and Ash wanted the rule changed to when it left the players hand. I assume neither of them realise it is the whistle not the siren that signifies the end of play. These are both international players & they obviously have never read the rule book!

This means that the commentators react in the moment and start talking about “rough play” and “clumsy challenges” and whether “there was anything in that”. The game management section of the rules lays out very clearly what was applied in this case and why.

Andrea Booth (an umpire with extensive CBT player experience as a shooter) reacted immediately to the challenge on Proscovia with “whistle, hold time, that was dangerous” and then proceeded to give the WARNING. Now it may have seemed innocuous from the TV angle, but she was right there and obviously saw not only the big hip & elbow from Manu’a, but also the fact that the challenge was on someone in the air and took away their landing space & was concerned for their safety. Having uttered the word dangerous (her immediate reaction), she had no option but to issue the warning which meant any other cautionable offence observed by either umpire would result in a suspension – as is the case for any player who is warned (as opposed to cautioned).

I would love Channel 9 to invite an umpire supervisor to explain the game management section of the rules (& maybe give a copy to each of the Ch 9 commentary team 😉) during one of the upcoming pre – matches.

At least people worldwide are talking about netball.

It’s fine if people can’t be bothered to learn the rules of the game they watch, but in that case they have no right to offer opinions on their interpretation.

The most striking thing for me about the whole episode is that neither Harten nor Fitzgerald knew the rules.

I do think as part of the end of the game washup and stats it would be helpful to see who has been cautioned etc throughout the game as I so think we miss a lot of it. Especially after a goal is scored and we are already seeing the next centre pass, sometimes in the background you can hear a player being warned and have no idea what for.

Considering it happened in the VNSL this year and has happened recently at the Quad series with Karin Burger, I was aware of the rule and the protocol, but got confused as to the reaction of the players and the commentators. Jo Harten would also be well aware of the disciplinary steps considering she was the one being obstructed when Burger got sent off! Does seem like the Giants tried their luck a little…

Just shows you how easy it is to get caught up in the moment rather than deal with the situation calmly which is where I think Giants lost the match. Whether the challenge was dangerous or not, Tilly should have been brought on in GD.