2021 Cadbury Netball Series – NZ v NZ Men’s Invitational team

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  • Kerryn
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      October 12, 2021 at 12:33 pm
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      #1334186

      @mcleod agree 100% regarding Toeava, but I think based on her ANZ performance (when really the only WD that shut her down was Savaiinaea) there would’ve been questions as to why she wasn’t (Even though the first time she was selected it also showed she just wasn’t at that level) – and had they been able to have their proper training caps prior to the England series I don’t think she would’ve made any of the match day 12’s but another player that is good at a regional level but just doesn’t quite make the mark on the international stage, actually the opposite of Poi – who by her standards had a sort’ve ordinary season but you know she’s going to shine in the black dress

      cookiesnjam
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        October 12, 2021 at 12:34 pm
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        #1334187

        Toeava will just get monstered by the men just like how the roses did to her. The men and roses WD’s all have such long reach her vision will probably be blocked completely.

        TB
        Participant
          October 12, 2021 at 1:48 pm
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          #1334188

          I feel Toeava isn’t a “come-off-the-bench” type player. She’s a player that needs to start, and builds confidence as the game goes on.
          Saunders has proven she can be that impact player. Having Crampton as the starting WA (and also being captain) Toeava I’m guessing is mainly there for training purposes 🤷‍♂️

          museboy
          Participant
            October 12, 2021 at 2:39 pm
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            #1334201

            I agree with all re Toeava. And there’s no shame in being such a player who excels at league level but doesn’t make a mark on the national team; I would put excellent players such as Gabi Simpson, Bulley and McMeniman in the same boat. Can’t think of many NZ examples due to lack of depth!

            Kerryn
            Participant
              October 12, 2021 at 2:54 pm
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              #1334203

              @museboy you could almost put Tuivaiti in there – but she was never really given the opportunities at SF level, but definitely excelled at league level, also Wendy Frew (but was often behind Langman) another one I was thinking of in Aus would be Teagan Phillip.

              I mean it’s still a bloody good accomplishment being just below the very top – but just not quite there

              mcleod
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                October 12, 2021 at 3:43 pm
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                #1334205

                Cat Latu would have been much better, if Maria wasn’t in the Ferns, then Langman would have passed the ball to Cat.

                JR
                Participant
                  October 12, 2021 at 4:00 pm
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                  #1334206

                  Maia and Tiana in the goal ring to start.

                  Maryann
                  Participant
                    October 12, 2021 at 4:04 pm
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                    #1334207

                    Heffernan at WD – hopefully its not because Kersten was hurt when she took that large fall last evening.

                    WeWood
                    Participant
                      October 12, 2021 at 4:35 pm
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                      #1334208

                      Ferns behind 17-14 after 15. Few missed shots, but the moving circle of Wilson and Metuarau are working well together and combining beautifully with Crampton in WA and Gordon at C. Tidy up the finish on the shot and the Ferns are back in this.

                      Ian Harkin
                      Moderator
                        October 12, 2021 at 4:38 pm
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                        #1334209

                        1/4 time: NZ Men 17-14

                        Wilson 11/15 (73%)
                        Metuarau 3/5 (60%

                        Geldard 14/15 (93%)
                        Smith 3/4 (75%)

                        Penalties: NZ Men 10-7
                        Turnovers: NZ Men 6-4

                        Men’s team playing well, and pressuring the shooters again. Ferns have had one more shot, but trail by 3.

                        WeWood
                        Participant
                          October 12, 2021 at 4:39 pm
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                          #1334210

                          Tiana’s feeding into Wilson is fantastic. Beside the tricky dicky pass under the hoop a few mins ago.

                          Jayceenz
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                            October 12, 2021 at 4:53 pm
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                            #1334211

                            The men have done their homework on Tiana’s tricks methinks and have pretty much shut her down as the second half has gone on. I see Grace has the GS bib on so I hope Noels moves Maia to GA as they worked well together.

                            JR
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                              October 12, 2021 at 4:58 pm
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                              #1334212

                              Yes, why isn’t Saunders on at Centre? Gordon’s burrowing and barging is not pretty to watch.

                              JR
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                                October 12, 2021 at 5:02 pm
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                                #1334213

                                Great, Tiana and Grace in goals.

                                Nate
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                                  October 12, 2021 at 5:04 pm
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                                  #1334214

                                  Agreed with homework done on Tiana, personally never been too fusses with her play style, without the new no short pass rule she wouldn’t be as good in the circle and her jumping back into the defenders or taking their space would easily be a contact.

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