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NB12ParticipantOctober 20, 2022 at 1:40 pmPost count: 470
Thank you TB and Ian. You’ve saved me a lot of typing.Ian HarkinModeratorOctober 20, 2022 at 2:27 pmPost count: 18813NateParticipantOctober 20, 2022 at 2:36 pmPost count: 410
`wI agree that it does go both ways. I’m an Aussie and follow all netball and still see the game in general has gotten way too rough. No way was Aussie that physical in the first two tests. THIS comes down to the umpires allowing a certain degree of physical contact. Those Aussie players except prob Chatfield that mentioned above are/were rough and dirty, they usually take the body when the attacker is in the air or on uncertain footing or taking landing spaces, late hits etc… which is extremely dangerous play and shouldn’t be allowed.
Just maning up to the body I have no problems with and fair contest. You see cautions and warnings handed out for the exact same play in SSN and ANZP so why not internationally? Rules are the same just different umpires. Yes Aussie are number 1 but doesn’t mean everyone enjoys their playing style especially those netball purists that value skill over smash and bash. The Aussie defenders absolutely have the skill set to win the ball much cleaner than they do, they just choose not to because they can get away with it.
Now @Ian I will disagree with you there that Davu was the only player that took it too far.
mcleodParticipantOctober 20, 2022 at 2:48 pmPost count: 1598
- This reply was modified 7 months, 2 weeks ago by Nate.
Well I hope the umpires are ready for a slug fest on Sunday. Ferns will be ready, (I hope). But it’s just the 2 different styles of play.
And davu was a clean player, never done a thing wrongNB12ParticipantOctober 20, 2022 at 3:44 pmPost count: 470
@nate – I am not going to use the word rough but the aussies were not as physical in the first 2 tests because they were outmuscled by NZ. Even as an Aussie supporter, I can respect that.
NZ held strong because they had good service from the midcourt. Australia also didn’t have the experience necessary to body up to NZs strength, Bruce at GD and the inexperience of Parmenter, Aryang and RBD showed.
Weston and Price created far more opportunities for Bruce because they were tight and relentless on their players.
As an Aussie my only concern after last night is how much stronger Nweke will be after that game. She battled on and didn’t let it get to her. Her feeders, not so much.D-fencrParticipantOctober 20, 2022 at 4:25 pmPost count: 341
I was there last night and from my perspective, the kiwis were giving as good as they got. Umpires should have shut it down much sooner, but it definitely wasn’t a one-way “poor kiwis, Aussies rough” thing. Ultimately, play to the whistle and adjust if needed. The diamonds clearly came there with a mission and achieved it.
As an aside, I was pleased to see Garbin get a whole game. There were a few points where they weren’t finding her on the feed as easily and I saw Koenen warming up, but she was left out there to work through it, and it paid off.mcleodParticipantOctober 20, 2022 at 4:39 pmPost count: 1598
Ekenasio had a bad game, she won’t have 2 in a row. And the fact that ferns can beat Australia twice without, crampton, Burger and Watson is impressiveIan HarkinModeratorOctober 21, 2022 at 8:13 amPost count: 18813WaylayParticipantOctober 21, 2022 at 8:28 amPost count: 266
Nothing wrong with the physicality of that game. There has been way worse in some of the recent SSN matches.
The players are SO much stronger physically than they have ever been – so I don’t know how people expect netball to remain the same? Physicality is part of the game’s growth and we need to grow with it!chloeParticipantOctober 21, 2022 at 8:32 amPost count: 31
I was very impressed with Bruce, who was very physical early on, then I thought made a big effort to clean up towards the second half (and maybe this was influenced by which end she was being umpired by). I haven’t seen her pull that off so well, as usually she is spoken to a few times/a warning then needs to come off.
I was disappointed though in the last few minutes when a call didn’t go her way and she dropped the ball off court and left it, I thought that was a bit far, although that did come a bit from both teams.mcleodParticipantOctober 21, 2022 at 10:48 amPost count: 1598
The issue for me re the umpiring, is that in the 2 games in NZ the umpires called contacts all over the place. 3 days later in the games in Australia, same group of umpires let most of it go.
What changed, were the instructed to???NateParticipantOctober 21, 2022 at 12:33 pmPost count: 410
Yeah funny how that tends to happens.
The umpires get caught up in the crowd and the hype, next minute it comes down to both teams need to win the last game to win the Cup instead of Aussie need to win by x amount of goals. Reads like a bad book.enozlasParticipantOctober 22, 2022 at 7:49 amPost count: 526
I’m all for physical games, but there is a line between physical and dirty and I think the diamonds defence at times crossed that line in that game. I’m not saying the ferns don’t go just as hard but I think their physicality is a lot more targeted towards getting the ball, whereas sometimes it seemed like Bruce and Weston were grossly physical for the sake of it and that comes across as dirty. I’ve been coached that way before “get in their heads early and rough them up until the umpire calls you in to line” sort of scenario and in this case the umpires didn’t so they continued the whole game. It was bad to watch at times.
On an unrelated note, I think Steph Wood thrives more when anyone other than Koenan is at GS and I can’t seem to figure out why..?NB12ParticipantOctober 22, 2022 at 1:29 pmPost count: 470
@enzolas – Koenen needs the shooter to shooter play, Wood is not this type of GA. That is the only thing I can come up with.
For Koenen to do well, both shooters need to be in the circle so she isn’t double teamed and then it opens her up on the baseline.
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