2023 Taini Jamison Trophy – NZ v England (Sep)

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  • Avatar photoIan Harkin
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      Tully, it’s quite incredible. There are 10 NSL teams but most of the talent is concentrated in just half of them. The big teams keep getting all the good players and there are often good players sitting on the bench that the bottom teams would love to have.

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        @Tullyyes Neil and Taljaard will be playing for London Pulse along with Tchine and Scholes. The attacking end for Pulse is looking fast, they also have Brie Grierson who is also speedy but can give away a lot of ball.

        Neil also plays GS, Taljaard at GA would offer a different structure

        @Ian don’t forget the Wasps franchise collapsed so there should really be 11 NSL teams. There has been a lot of player moves so season 2024 should be interesting.

        I wonder if ANZP should team up with NSL?? Most teams play on the body, it’s physical and we have NZ coaches. Both leagues could have different seasons so players can play for both B-) B-)

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          I thought it was a nice game, I’m so pleased all the Roses got on court.

          Roses shooters, what a nice problem to have: Caldwell, Houseby, SDL, Tchine, Fisher and now Glasgow and Neil.

          I think SDL will miss out, JT doesn’t seem to rate her and now it looks like Neil can be a quick & Nippy GA.

          For me Fisher is stronger that Tchine, she can shoot from distance, better footwork and pops forward more. So technically she offers something different. Tchine likes an overheard ball.

          Glasgow :scratch: :scratch:

          I predict we’ll see both Wilson and Fisher playing GA in ANZP in 2024

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              ‘I never bagged the team’: Silver Fern Phoenix Karaka didn’t mean to fire up England netballers

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/netball/133028731/i-never-bagged-the-team-silver-fern-phoenix-karaka-didnt-mean-to-fire-up-england-netballers

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                  @Jinxibo I’d like Fisher and Wilson to stay in their GS positions.

                  – Fisher so Georgia Heffernan can have a season focusing on her own job instead of trying to carry the Steel goal circle on her own. In saying that, I do think Namana will push both for game time and we could see a lot of rotation.
                  – Wilson to try get that dominance back in her GS game. I think back to Con Cup 2021 and she was on fire and combined so well with Ekenasio. I imagine if Samason has Ferns aspirations she will be told to play GA. Also, let’s not forget Malesala who will want to prove a point and maintain her place in the Ferns Development side. I do wish Malesala had gone across town to the Mystics to play with Nweke..

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                    @Jinxibo that could be a great idea. The combining of ANZ and NSL, could rival the SSN comp.
                    However the biggest problem would be the travel factor. I googled travel time, 23hrs+.

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                      Did anyone else watch the post game presentation?

                      Jennie Wyllie went overboard with the platitudes about the quality games played across the series. Should have acknowledged her earlier comments in a public display of eating humble pie..

                      Also, never have I seen captains interviewed versus providing a speech in a NZ-hosted series.

                      Adio walked up to the lectern with a speech in her hands and Storm Purvis quietly asked her if she could take some questions instead.

                      The cynic in me thinking NNZ were wanting to ensure no additional egg landed on their faces..

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                        Oh I’m definitely shocked at how well this English side played. I wasn’t planning on watching this series, but once we lost I started to watch!
                        However I don’t think Jennie needed to go back on her comments. I still stand firm, that an international series should not be used to develop players or literally a whole team.
                        The great thing for England is they backed what they sent.

                        Reading the above article makes sense why DNT wants all these international games. The Ferns girls don’t get to play against international players regularly, like they do in SSN.
                        On the flip side England took advantage of this and used this as gaining experience, experimenting and exposure. They have players now, who had no international experience, gain valuable lessons against the #2 team in the world. I mean, they’re captain debut in this series :unsure:

                        So who gained the most from this series??

                        IMO NZ probably came out on top for this. Yes, England would have gained A LOT and silenced the critics. But the emergence of Walmsley is a big game breaker for me.
                        Had she came up against a Mentor on debut, may have killed her confidence. Some times an experience like this could set you back more, than bringing you forward (or it could go in reverse). I believe this is the start of a great career for this young shooter.

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