MaryannParticipantMay 30, 2023 at 3:28 pmPost count: 1186
Temu is eligible to play for NZ, England (by way of birth) and the Cook Islands.NesianParticipantMay 30, 2023 at 3:57 pmPost count: 289
@BibsInTheAir They can still discuss whether or not the teams are interested in their services and then it would be a formality once the collective is sorted over there.
@Baller I’m also a fan of letting them NZ’s into the SSN to play. Players only have a short career and giving them the opportunity to maximise their earnings. Playing in the SSN can be lucrative.
Keep in mind there are only 2 tier one positions in each ANZ team and the max amount you can be paid is $56k. So, you look at NPA’s to boost up their pay but each team is only allowed $100k total and if you are spreading that amongst 10 contracted players it doesn’t go far. Some people seem to think that these ladies are making a fortune but they really aren’t and when you consider the scrutiny they are put under (forums and facebook groups judging them etc) I think our players should be earning a lot more and if that means going to the SSN to do that then so be it.al_exParticipantMay 30, 2023 at 7:25 pmPost count: 1167
I agree Nesian. We will see what happens with all the drama in SSN, but if the players get the pay rise they are looking for the average wage will be comfortably more than double what ANZP players earn. Even if they don’t, many of the Ferns would be making double regardless. A huge reason why NZL won NWC was that Taurua, Langman and Tuta’ia were all playing SSN. Players like Temu probably shouldn’t be getting an exception, but it seems crazy to try and keep the likes of Burger/Watson/Nweke/Ekenasio locked in NZL. I doubt it would harm NZL’s international chances and if the pay gap keeps getting wider more players will just move over in the first two years of a cycle, which will obviously create huge instability for the Ferns.TBParticipantMay 30, 2023 at 8:27 pmPost count: 982
Fair point, I didn’t look at it that way!mcleodParticipantMay 31, 2023 at 6:32 amPost count: 1687
Would I watch the ANZ if the best NZ players were not playing, probably not. The reason why the ANZ players earn less, is because netball NZ isn’t a bottomless pit to give big pay rises every year. Oh just like netball Australia, but the SSN players don’t seem to get that memo.nanatorParticipantMay 31, 2023 at 8:14 amPost count: 245
The players in SSN and ANZP are well within their rights to ask/demand for a pay rise. It’s not a bottomless pit but there is plenty of money going around in many men’s competitions – and should ideally be seen for the most popular female sport around the country.
These players are dedicating their lives and careers to a sport we all love watching – they should absolutely demand as much as they can. If ANZP can’t provide it, and they can get more elsewhere – why not.TBParticipantMay 31, 2023 at 11:38 amPost count: 982
Always thought the NZ players were paid well – I don’t know how much they get paid, I just assumed it was well ?♂️
I know this sounds silly, and bear in mind I live in Aus. But I’m quite proud that NZ is the only country that doesn’t help fuel the SSN competition.
The majority of pinnacle events have come down to NZ/Aus. So I don’t put NZ in the same category as England, Jamaica, South Africa, Malawi etc where they have benefited more by having their top players playing in Aus.
For me, NZ should be running a strong competition and not having to send players to Aus to help lift/benefit the national team.
Someone mentioned about LL and Folau were playing SSN when we won the WC. I do not think NZ won gold cause they played SSN. From memory it was the rise of Ekenasio that helped us to gold. Our whole backline, Watson Kopua and Rore, did not play SSN.
However I liked how Rore could go and play SSN cause ANZ had finished. It’ll be great if that could become a thing.
*Btw I have totally lost where I was going with this post. So I’ll leave it there ?♂️??museboyParticipantMay 31, 2023 at 11:57 amPost count: 164
I think the top Ferns are paid well – when combining ANZP plus Silver Ferns payments, the figure is reported to be >$135k pa according to RNZ. The issue is more for outside squad members or established players wanting to challenge themselves.
I agree with TB in that it would be good to get SSN experience but not at the expense of the ANZP competition. If the ANZP is seen as ‘second rate’ for NZ talen, that creates a block hole that would ultimately gut NNZ revenues, affecting the NZ game’s development.
And hey, if SSN was the be all and end all, why did we beat England in the CWGs?mcleodParticipantMay 31, 2023 at 3:44 pmPost count: 1687
Considering some ANZ players hardly ever get on court, they actually get paid well.NesianParticipantMay 31, 2023 at 4:07 pmPost count: 289
@Museboy That number quoted was for the top paid SF who would be Ekenasio with her captain duties. The rest would be on lower amounts. With retainer and match fee payments it would be a nice boost though.
However, that accounts for only less than a third of the players in the ANZ. There would then be a massive drop to the next income level. When you consider the SSN minimum is only $3k less than our Tier 2 minimum (which we have a number of SF’s on) and the SSN average minimum is more than our Tier 1 threshold you can see how much more lucrative it can be. I don’t agree that just for our entertainment and the welfare of our league they should earn be restricted to how much they can potentially earn. Let them go I say. It would just mean I would watch both the ANZ and SSN because without NZ players, the SSN doesn’t interest me currently.RMBParticipantJune 13, 2023 at 10:08 amPost count: 239
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