Hancock Prospecting invests in the Origin Australian Diamonds

Hancock Prospecting invests in the Origin Australian Diamonds2022-10-15T14:03:51+10:00
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  • Avatar photoIan Harkin
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      Yeah, I think I saw that it was how much it costs to run the whole Diamonds program each year. So that leaves NA free to fund all the other stuff. Would help them a lot.

      Jo Weston tweeted a comment tonight, but later she deleted it. In it, she said that the Aust team had been willing to wear the dress in game one, but NA told them not to. This is all getting very confusing.

      Nate
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        Ok thanks Ian. Figure makes more sense then.

        Well doesnt that muddy the waters a bit. So confused then. Ex players saying no… Diamonds squad and leadership group says yes? Now NA saying not yet? :wacko: :unsure:

        schmeetle
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          Are the ex-players (Bianca, Sharni et al) suffering from relevance deprivation syndrome???

          schmeetle
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            So Jo Weston’s tweet has disappeared? This is becoming more and more amusing…

            mcleod
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              Diamonds should be more concerned about winning. But if they are more worried about a sponsor, then 4-0 to the ferns is a real possibility.

              montyb
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                I appreciate this is a sensitive subject and I comment with cautious respect for all perspectives, but I personally feel like ‘some’ people involved are exploiting their indigenous peers to try and ‘recruit’ discontent and champion climate change responses. I think its always risky when coloniser speak for indigenous communities, claiming they don’t want to be part of the problem….when i actual fact, bringing “Donny” into the debate without her explicit permission just further perpetuates injustices for indigenous people. Just my take – speaking from and indigenous NZ perspective. Peace and Love 🙂

                Tully
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                  Net worth and median income are different. They represent different measures and are accumulated over different time periods. In saying that however, of course the gap between the net wealth of Gina Reinhardt and the average Australian would be large. Has anyone else put forward 0.048% of their net wealth (not income) in sponsorship?

                  Despite the percentage $15M is not an insignificant sum and I would question anyone who thinks $15M is insignificant. Hancock Prospecting and Gina Reinhart are not in the financial positions they are today by being financially frivolous with such sums. Hancock Prospecting did not have to (and who knows may be still don’t have to, depending on the terms etc and where that stands) provide a sponsorship. They are long term supporters of Australian sports so it is not inconsistent for them, is it altruistic? No but I don’t think anyone is suggesting it is. If the Diamonds don’t want it then I’m sure Gina can find someone to take it.

                  I do appreciate the irony raised in this thread that it’s apparently acceptable for origin energy to be on the dress which ties in to my point regarding consistency.

                  If you are going to step out and criticise others for not acting consistently in accordance with a certain values system then you had better ensure your own behaviour is consistent with that value system. Of course that needs to be assessed in reference to the size and power of the individual / organisation as the impact each can have is relative to their capacity.

                  I’d like to hear from the current playing group. But suspect and hope we will not until the tours are complete. A large test of the leadership of Watson and whoever is acting captain for the English tests.

                  Nate
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                    Great insights and words from @montyb and @Tully

                    Avatar photoIan Harkin
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                        So now Sharni is saying Donnell isn’t comfortable wearing the sponsor on the dress? Would be nice to hear or read those words from Donnell.

                        And so the rest of the team is fine wearing it but are supporting Donnell.

                        Mess keeps getting messier.

                        Nate
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                          So players have had interview bans from Stacey M. till tomorrow when a media release will be made about the whole sponsor issue I guess.

                          Avatar photoIan Harkin
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                            A good summary here. This could have been handled so much better. Donnell didn’t want to wear the logo (fair enough) and the rest of the team was willing to wear it, so why can’t that happen? Just don’t put the logo on her dress.

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                            Pressure building for Diamonds, Netball Australia and mining magnate Gina Rinehart

                            https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-18/pressure-building-for-diamonds-netball-australia-gina-rinehart/101545110

                            netballgirl
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                              Plain and simple , netball Australia need to make one of two decisions.
                              Protect the feelings of some players or keep the sport running.
                              It was hard enough to get one sponsorship and now this, can’t see the sport lasting more than 3 years with this woke nonsense.
                              Go woke go broke.

                              Jase
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                                If the issue is Donnell’s objection to Hancock name because of the comments made by Lang I think there is a path forward here. I don’t think there is any denying that the comments from Lang were outrageous and it is understandable to take offence to them. However, equally I think its a fairly easy proof to demonstrate they are not the values held by Gina Rinehart nor Hancock Prospecting. In addition, it is deeply unfair to hold a person responsible for the sins of their father, especially a father that died 30 years ago.

                                However, the input from Sharni Norder (and SEA) is what worries me. Sharni has made it quite clear that she has spoken to the team about Hancock Prospecting being an inappropriate sponsor on climate grounds (regularly using the phrase “climate denier”). This is simply something that will be unable to be resolved and if you refuse to accept sponsorship from mining/energy companies than you leave yourself with very few cashed up options for sponsorship (with the exception of gambling which I’d argue is far more detrimental to society than mining). And of course it is a hypocritical stance given the Diamonds existing sponsorship with Origin Energy. If the Diamonds go down this path than that’s fine but the reality will be they will need to accept to get paid considerably less.

                                I sincerely hope the Diamonds distance themselves from Sharni and SEA if we are to move forward on this dispute.

                                NB12
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                                  Interesting there is a headline that Aussie Cricket players want to knock back a 40m sponsorship deal with Alinta Gas.

                                  I haven’t read the article as of yet.

                                  I agree with the idea that there is a way forward for Hancock Prospecting. Recognition of the past and working towards closing the gap will go a long way to helping this situation.

                                  No one should underestimate the trauma experienced by First Nations people associated with loss of land and culture due to European settlement.

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