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  • Ian Harkin
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    Maryann
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    The Ferns are back in NZ and in MIQ for what they still appear to think is 10 days. Unfortunately yesterday it changed back to 14 days.

    TB
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    Finally watched both games.

    Aus: really have enjoyed watching them over this series. Interested to see if this is the four shooters they’ll take. I feel the only one that will be a ? is Cara Koenan.
    Midcourt, I think will come down to JLP or Moloney. I wonder if it was an intentional thing, but I don’t recall Moloney running C with Watson at WA?
    Klau is amazing to watch, her footwork is nek level.

    NZ: I struggled to watch this game. I’m glad Maia Wilson has found form again. She’s been shooting so well this series. But when you have a very dominant shooter sitting on the bench, and know they could have won by so much more with her on, that was a bit disappointing.
    In saying that, South Africa played so well. I thought their GA had a great game, she really split open the Ferns defence.

    England: they would have learnt so much from this defeat. I was surprised by the changes. I thought she should have left those players out there, to grind it out. Mentor should not have come off, if there’s a player to bring it home for ya, it’s her.
    I think someone on here said it would have been different with Harten. I strongly disagree. Harten tightens up in pressure moments. Cardwell IMO is so strong and stable, and is very consistent. I reckon it could possibly come down to who is going to partner her in the circle – Housby or Harten?
    In saying that, that’s some good strong depth for England.

    mcleod
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    I’d be surprised if nweke makes the com games team, no point having a statue as a GS, the middies can’t feed her so she needs to get the feet moving. Metuarau, I’m not a fan at all.

    tasman
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    I think Metuarau and Nweke show great potential but they aren’t quite ready yet for international and need to be paired with an experienced shooting partner or a dominant playmaking WA – neither of which were available this series in my opinion. Wilson needed to concentrate on getting herself right, which she absolutely did, and crampton had a quiet series.

    I would still take Nweke for the prelim stages or for a change of attacking pace which is sometimes required. I think fourth spot is between Metuarau and Mes, depending on how Bailey comes back in to anz.

    Unfortunately, i think the 4 midcourt players we have seen this series will be the ones going to cwg. Poi and Gordon are the dark horses, but with Kersten and Winders pairing up at the magic this season, with Eke, Mes and Rore, i think this pair will make the team. I actually think this is the best I’ve seen Kersten play, while Winders had little impact. I wonder which is the two will play centre though, as playing a whole season in WD will probably jeopardise their chance, as too many stronger options there like Burger or Johnson.

    I really hope Rore comes back firing and plays GD for pulse as i think we don’t have a strong option there. I thought Jury was ok until that fourth game where she got outplayed. Fitzpatrick showing better form this game but timing still not quite there. Johnson and karaka should get better with regular court time, but karaka seems the better of the two at present.

    My ferns team prediction:
    Wilson
    Eke
    Nweke
    Mes

    Crampton
    Saunders
    Kersten
    Poi

    Burger
    Fitzpatrick
    Rore
    Karaka

    Waylay
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    Ekenasio has not got time on her side, but I really hope she can get herself fit for CWG. I don’t think the Ferns can afford to take the same 4 young shooters to a major tournament. So, if Ekenasio isn’t available I’d take Selby-Rickit because I think she would actually give Nweke the ball.

    Rore will be ready, it just depends if she makes herself available. Fitzpatrick looked a step behind at quad series, I know she had knee surgery recently but she definitely wasn’t as fit as she needed to be.

    My Ferns 12 would be

    Nweke
    Wilson
    Metuarau
    Ekenasio (Selby-Rickit if eke isn’t ready)

    Crampton
    Saunders
    Poi
    Winders

    Burger
    Rore (Fitzpatrick if Rore doesn’t nominate)
    Karaka
    Jury

    Kerryn
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    @waylay that’s pretty darn close to who I would name too, agree about Sulu – she just doesn’t seem very effective at the moment the only one she was okay against was Venter who isn’t a fast mover, but even she got the better of Sulu on many occasions. I think the three shooters who played in the quad series deserve to make the squad – they’re both only going to get better the more they play,and have definitely shown they want to be there and are prepared to put the work in. Eke should be all good, she played fast 5 not long after having baby #1 and will have some actual game time under her belt by then. Middies are a tough one, I think Winders deserves to be there, but there are a bunch of others who can play wd, I’m hoping playing with Eke/Mes will give her an edge. Poi should be in, even the english commentators made numerous mentions of it throughout the quad series. Kersten is just a flat out no for me, the other two pick themselves (though Gina needs to pick her game up) Gordon a potential pick but needs to be playing more C this year

    But Noels will be Noels so who knows :unsure: :scratch: :unsure:

    WeWood
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    My Ferns CWG 12:

    I think a firing on all cylinders Mes will bump Nweke out of the 12.
    Very attacking focused mid court but I think our troubles of the last few series have shown we need that movement and flare, especially at C.
    Feel like I have more than adequate WD coverage even though I haven’t picked a specialist.

    Karaka unlucky to miss out. No room for recent mainstays of Fitzpatrick, Kersten or Winders.

    1. Ekenasio – I’d probably take her with one leg.
    2. Mes – based on her playing a cracker season for the Magic with Eke.
    3. Metuarau – I hope the feedback from selectors is 15 goals a game during ANZP. Cut the cute stuff and go to the post more.
    4. Wilson – hopefully has sorted her Stars 2021 shooting woes with this tour. My starting GS alongside Eke.

    5. Crampton – her Quad Series form is hardly saying pick me, but she’s the Captain so she’ll be on the plane.
    6. Gordon – See her job-sharing WD in pool games and a C change up in the knock out stages.
    7. Poi – starting C.
    8. Saunders – back-up WA, unsure why Noeline wouldn’t play her at C with Crampton? Fourth choice WD in this side.

    9. Burger – I think she’s lost at GD without Watson and would be most useful to this team as WD.
    10. Johnson – really enjoyed her GD cameos and think she will be even better with an ANZP season under her belt.
    11. Jury – am hoping Manu’a is at GK and Jury runs GD during ANZP to keep the fitness up. Our best bet against the tall timber.
    12. Rore – WD/GD/GK.

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    TB
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    If Burger and Johnson get selected, then DNT can select a more attacking style midcourt.
    If Rore gets selected too, I think her or Burger will be counted as a middie. Which will leave no room for Winders or Kersten.

    Nweke would still be in my team. She’s too dominant. I still feel this series, they missed the chance of really getting that experience. They’ve put so much faith into Maia Wilson, and shes rewarded them for it. Imagine if they put that same faith into Nweke? We saw the confidence she built during the Cadbury series. Would have liked to have seen that in this series too.

    Ian Harkin
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