2020 Taini Jamison Trophy – New Zealand v England (Oct-Nov)

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  • Andrew Kennedy
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    Note – first time in many years we’ve seen non-neutral umpires; two Kiwi umpires!

    ** Serena Guthrie probably will play her 100th cap on Sunday arvo

    Coach Taurua says – “stilted, caught on the body, timing was out…. flat, we’ve gone backwards a wee bit…. England were good, had nothing to lose, vibrancy…. we got a wee bit timid… Faulkner came on to manage Ekenasio a little bit [NB she had to rest one game last week with an Achilles twinge]”.

    – she also specified that there was only ONE good flowing play she saw on attack in the whole match!

    Kat Ratnapala is the stand-in coach for England since Jess Thirlby couldn’t come “really proud, and pleased to take the opportunity… get players out there to get nerves out of the way, managing players suitably, a lot of faith in those shooters… building to Comm Games, to know who can step up and deliver…. (high penalties) the girls need to get used to the NZ and angles… prepare using video, meetings, look at naivety on court tonight…. we’ll build on it and come out fighting”

    Ian Harkin
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    I thought Friday’s game was supposed to be Guthrie’s 100th???

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    Bluebird
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    I thought England did really well considering its not the strongest side. Quashie and Williams were brilliant. Would’ve liked to see Oyesola come on.

    But, I really don’t want to see Cardwell at GA. It’s not her position.

    I’m still irritated at Thirby’s batcrazy WA selection.

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    Cb98
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    Just watched the game now. Agree about the WA selection – Laura Malcolm had quite a few turnovers, and most of the feeders were very hesitant to pass off unless the shooter was right in front of them. They need someone who’ll give the pass faster (there were some good fast plays but not consistently), pass into space rather than directly passing at the player, and with more “pinpoint accuracy” on the feed (so, basically Haythornthwaite). :unsure: You’d think Thirlby would have learnt from the series against South Africa last year – Haythornthwaite was their only true WA option (no Pitman for that series), and they struggled without her in that position. Drakeford-lewis was good at WA, but she’s a GA and was playing well there :unsure:

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    Zara
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    So I definitely need to rewatch as I was very bleary eyed, but overall I was really impressed with England and a little disappointed in the ferns?

    Everyone more or less expected the ferns to walk this one and whilst they did, they seemed to struggle with England’s full court defence. Considering how well the ferns performed in the Cadbury series last week I did think they looked a full level below that today. Surprisingly, considering how nobody could agree on their middie selections I think it fell short in the midcourt.

    England’s attack end was as good as it could have been I guess considering the selection choices. SDL is a good option in WA, but we really don’t have a strong enough GA. Corbin always just makes too many mistakes and it’s frustrating, the first ten minutes of the game I thought I would need to eat my words but then she just gave too many crazy moments that just weren’t necessary. Without Housby and Harten, there really aren’t any GA backups that are a valid option imo. I hope SDL gets played there more over the next few years as we need a backup option for comm games/world cup. Cardwell and Fisher and both great, but at GS. I just don’t think either have the creativity/flair needed for GA.

    Really loved Quashie and Williams in defence, if they are given time to develop they could be great. Still really want to see Adio and Gibson given a shot this week!

    I’d hope England had learned a lot/enough from this game to make the next test a closer one. But then I do think Noels will give the ferns a bit of a stern talking to about certain elements so I’m sure they will come out all guns blazing.

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    Honestly, the margin was a bit less than I expected. Thought it would have been 20 or more. Thought England stuck at it really well considering the poor start. Speaking of which, what do they see in Kadeen Corbin?

    Fluffy
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    A few thoughts now I’ve watched it all:

    GREAT to see international netball back, without the stupid SuperShot – let us NEVER see THAT in an international, please! Well done to NNZ and EN for getting this series sorted out: it must have been a huge headache.

    SDL was fabulous; she is so quick, and moves really well. Yes, she’s still very “green” at this level, but more than held her own and should do nothing but get better the more exposure she gets. But PLEASE let that not be at WA – what a waste.

    I’m afraid as the “senior” player, Corbin was not impressive – still too many rushes of blood to the head and stupid mistakes. Let’s move on from this one now please.

    Fisher really did have an impact – really like what she put out there, and will only get better with some exposure in NZ. It’s such a shame that she and Cardwell have come along at the same time; EC was good but she is NOT a natural GA and it was exposed on occasion.

    Quashie and Williams worked surprisingly well – agree, it would be good to see Oyesola out there. And yes, Serena has lost a bit of “edge” but a) she hasn’t played at this level for over a year and b) she’s not in the ANZ any more. She’s still got that amazing flair and elevation. But my oh my, what I wouldn’t do for a specialist WA; tho I’ve been wracking my brains for who that would be in the England set up – other than Nat H (and Chelsea), who is there at this level?

    For NZ – Ekenasio just gets better and better. It wasn’t long ago that everyone was querying her NZ selection so soon after moving there…..funny how the faith that was placed in her has been justified.

    All in all, for my money, a much better showing from England than I was expecting (if I’m honest); good to see the young guns contesting so much. Maybe now they’ve got their nerves out of the way they can make it a closer run thing in test 2? :unsure:

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