Silver Ferns WC squad predictions

[Maryann]

#1364034

I disagree – Toeava is only x-factor if feeding to Nweke and also not if the opposing WD is tall and a real arms over player. Plus she wasn’t fit enough.
I agree the team didn’t have x-factor but it also didn’t have players who had been exposed to the SSN competition like the previous WC team. Not enough players in it who had felt the pain of repeated defeat at International level and were prepared to grind it out until they dropped – think Kopua, Langman.

[Netfan212]

#1364061

And yet these middies aren’t cutting it. Nweke is our GS for the foreseeable future might as well have Toeava there too, cause Crampton and Heffernan are too hesitant feeding her.

Noel’s will be gone after this campaign and a bronze will soften that blow. Let’s face it we desperately need someone like Rob Wright or Briony Akle on the coaching panel with someone like Yvette as head. Netball NZ need to get off their high horses and accept our coaches need to learn off the best. Talent breeds talent..

Depending on how long Nweke is out, they might need to fast track Walmsley or even risk it and get Fisher. Sorry but it’s needed. The attack is letting us down.

• This reply was modified 4 months ago by Netfan212.

[silverferns1]

#1364066

Totally agree with you Netfan212, Peta has a great combo with Ameliaranne that developed during cadbury series 2022 NZA and Con Cup. Toeava is the future of NZ’s midcourt since Carmptons stepping down after NWC. So why not include her in this campaign? I don’t think Fisher is ready due to her knee injury. Would love her to be a Silver Fern but believe she has a better chance of seeing court-time in the roses outfit.

This narrative that “Peta can only feed Grace” needs to stop. Why? because who can Heffernan and Crampton feed?

I believe the silver ferns squad needs a major shakeup attacking wise so My Taini Jamison squad of 15 vs England 2023 given no one else takes a break/retires and given that Nweke is still injured:

Shooters: Ameliaranne, Amelia Walmsley*, Tiana, Maia, Amorangi Malesala*

Middies: Toeava, Heffernan, Michaela Sokolich-Beatson, Poi, Gordon

Defenders: Kelly, Phoenix, Jane, Karin, Carys Stythe*

[TB]

#1364074

I would have Aliyah Dunn as my backup shooter to Nweke.

[Kat]

#1364169

It will be interesting to see what players England bring to the Taini Jamison cup. Will they rest Cardwell and Housby as they have had a very busy year.

[al_ex]

#1364170

I expect we will see Glasgow and Tchine. It’s a great opportunity to blood them.

[mcleod]

#1364171

I doubt Netball NZ will be willing to accept a England B side. They don’t have 4 international shooters. They have 2.

[TB]

#1364172

NZ and England are pretty much the same, in if they lost (which we did) their starting GS they would really struggle. Aus and Jamaica have strong back ups for those positions.

I doubt Nweke will be available for this series? Is this the time to introduce Walmsley? TPSR was barely used, is that a sign?

[WeWood]

#1364175

I don’t expect massive personnel changes for the upcoming series, with the exception of Nweke and maybe Watson as I sort of get she was hampered by that same injury from the backend of ANZP and her lack of court time was partially attributed to that.

I think we’ll see Heffernan back at WD and Karaka/Burger sharing GD. IMO if she isn’t paired with Jane, I find Burger can go missing. Kelly at GK.

Am wondering if the shackles will come off for the attacking and shooting ends and they’ll play with more freedom given the stakes aren’t as high?

The adjustment that needs to be made is more strategic in that front end IMO. Surely time to deviate from the whole seal and present thing?

[Maryann]

#1364194

I’m pretty sure ai read Grace is out for 6-12 weeks which will exclude her from International play this year. Watson had a stress injury to her tibia or fibula. Surely she won’t be available given she obviously can’t play full games in succession. I’d take Stythe and or Burley. Shooters Walmsley or Tūī although I’m not sure Walmsley is quite up to the relentless and physical grind of an international. Mid court MRB to come in.

[Netfan212]

#1364195

Unfortunately I don’t think they have a choice but to bring in Walmsley- our shooters rn are not up to scratch. Eke has lost her spark, and really needed Grace in there. Tiana has a great partnership with Walmsley at the pulse. She’s well supported if she has TP and Eke too. Maia, although I thought she had a decent tournament, there’s just something not quite really when she’s playing and we are suffering trying to make it work. ALL TEAMS had GA’s willing to shoot from range. Eke needs to work on that if she wants to remain Captain.

Enter Stythe and Beatson. With Crampton gone, Toeava is a guarantee, I’d really like to see Earle get a chance, but the next off the blocks is Mila.

Heffernan looked tired. I’d rest her.

IF Noel’s stays on, then there’s no way Walmsley will be picked. I’m still bagging on Fisher to switch, especially when she’ll be behind Cardwell, Tchine, and Housby. She basically gets a starting position should she become a Fern.

[Maryann]

#1364196

ooh my bad, love MSB and her play and was disappointed she didn’t get a chance in the squad to play but she’s determined and she’ll get there this cycle barring any further injury. I’d love her back on court in the ferns as a middie.
With Maia I would really love it if there wasn’t a big media thing released right on a tournament, featuring her and the issues she has faced in the last few years. Maybe that would help. Maybe she should be tried at WA?
Not so sure about Earle, at times she has been great but under pressure her defensive effort falls away. Yes she was better this last season but still not as good as pre-covid.
And yes, why would our shooters not shoot from range. Passing in and out always was and still is the best way to lose possession. If the close pass rule is put back in there will be no way a defender wont get in there every time.

[Nesian]

#1364197

Sorry, but saying that Walmsley is the answer going forward is laughable. Nweke will be there for a long time barring injury and I thought Wilson had a great tournament, she is so far superior in terms of skill than Walmsley and even Nweke, that it’s not close. I don’t know why people rate Wilson so lowly. Even Dunn would be far superior to Walmsley, she’s just the newest shiniest toy on the block and people like that.

[Stoj]

#1364198

I think one of the things clearly missing for NZ was a lack of ability to adjust to new opposition. At the beginning of the WC the Aussie girls were saying “they were sick of playing each other” (and they had only had a few weeks together). The NZ girls only play each other most of the time, so they’re not playing different styles enough. I think this was the main reason Aus had slow starts (taking the time to adjust to styles) in the group games.

Time for the NZ governing body looking so insular and allow players to play elsewhere or let more international players in IMO.

[WeWood]

#1364199

I’d be giving Dunn a call-up.

Why? Established combinations with Ekenasio and Metuarau as well as Souness and Gordon.

I’m a big Walmsley fan, but remember she was overwhelmed at times during her breakout ANZP season and I think she needs the time and space to develop her maturity and build up her ability to take the hits.

Am sure the Pulse will have made a plan around the latter for the off season. I expect her in the frame for the upcoming cycle however..

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