NettySuperFanParticipantOctober 28, 2020 at 9:54 amPost count: 265
Giants already have signed McDonnell. But if they do what they did last, and sign 4 circle defenders, they could still be looking for another defender to sign. They desperately need a WA specialist but Giants have made many smart choices over the past few seasons so I won’t be surprised if they just sign another defender.
Netballcrazy1ParticipantOctober 28, 2020 at 9:55 amPost count: 1910
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Bragg was very good for Magpies considering their season. She won a lot of ball back and was quite solid. I would reward that but with Brazil, Browne, and Jovic, that last mid court spot could really be going to anyone at this stage.gilllParticipantOctober 28, 2020 at 11:47 amPost count: 6
Not sure on Shimmin to Lightning. Good player but now behind Karla and Phumza so just don’t see her getting anymore court time than she did with Thunderbirds, which is potentially disappointing for her. Clearly couldn’t get a starting position here or in the UK. As a Roses squad member you would have thought she would have had opportunities in the UK league. Also Lightning now have the oldest defensive lineup with an average age of 32 for next season. I would have though Garrett would have been a better option if they wanted positional versatility given she is the same age as departing Lee-Jones. I guess the Lightning coaches will worry about the future in the future.greenasgxldParticipantOctober 28, 2020 at 11:52 amPost count: 52
I think there will be an even rotation of Maweni, Pretorius and Shimmin. Realistically the lack of depth in the defence end was exploited this season by certain teams. Pretorius could also move out to WD against certain teams. Shimmin could replace Maweni, especially against attacking lines that Maweni can’t combat.
Personally, I don’t really see the hype behind Garrett. Sure she’s a young player, but when she was used by the Magpies, I didn’t really see what she added. Ofc it was only for a few minutes, but I wasn’t overly impressed.Netballcrazy1ParticipantOctober 28, 2020 at 11:56 amPost count: 1910
It sounded like Shimmin really only found out that she wouldn’t be re-signed the day prior or maybe a few days before the actual announcement and by this point, UK teams well and truly had a direction they were taking with their rosters. I think she could have landed a position in the UK with better court time if she had, firstly, known a little earlier about her future in Adelaide, and secondly if she actually wanted to move overseas. It is a big move, who is to say she would have even accepted an offer for VNSL. Shimmin has had sporadic court time for quite a few years now but she has again and again proven that she can slip onto court without missing a beat. I think the changeup is needed for Lightning because sometimes Maweni just isn’t able to combat some of the shooters.gilllParticipantOctober 28, 2020 at 1:42 pmPost count: 6
It appears the Thunderbirds will have a complete defensive line of imports. Is it just me thinking that we are killing off a lot of our young Australian players with potential because we are now relying so heavily on imports. Magpies have 4 I think, Thunderbirds will probably have 4, Lightning have 3 etc etc. This just can’t be good for Australian netball going forward. Hopefully at the end of next year when the league is re-sponsored we will see some level of restrictions. Maybe the UK way, where they are allowed two imports but they can’t both play in the same third at the same time, excepting the C. That makes some sense to me at it means we will have Aussies in most key position on each team. I’d appreciate thoughts please.TullyParticipantOctober 28, 2020 at 1:55 pmPost count: 909
I like the idea of limiting imports to different areas of the court.
Lightning’s defence is all imports. Adelaide’s starting defensive combination and WD are imports; maybe a bench spot for an Aussie? Collingwood have most likely starting combinations in both circles as imports.
We have so much defensive depth in particular that could push through if given a chance.JbssParticipantOctober 28, 2020 at 2:11 pmPost count: 230
Id like to see more teams to spread the imports out but I definitely think there should be a rule that replacement players can’t be imports and should be a TP or otherwise. You rarely see a benchie at this level who isn’t ready and promoting a TP to sit in the bench players place isn’t going to hurt the league.mcleodParticipantOctober 28, 2020 at 2:21 pmPost count: 1136
Imports will take 7 of the GS spots again next year.
Actually prob 7 and half, as Koenon is not a 60min GS yet.NB12ParticipantOctober 28, 2020 at 2:33 pmPost count: 145
Lucky one Aussie shooter will be getting lots of court time in NZ!al_exParticipantOctober 28, 2020 at 2:34 pmPost count: 951
I like the imports. If Australian girls can’t push for starting positions in comparison to players who come from countries with far far fewer opportunities, I don’t think they really deserve it. Especially because there are often opportunities for the Australian girls in other cities, they are just unwilling to move for them. New Zealand’s strategy may have won them a World Cup but it doesn’t really contribute to world netball and improving the quality of the sport, which is more important in my opinion.
I would like to see ANL become a more serious competition and have its dates moved so more SSN-level non-Diamonds players can participate. Having the likes of ATN, Glasgow, Fraser etc. playing ANL would not only be good for their own development but also for the development of Training Partners and state-league level players. I also agree that replacement players shouldn’t be imports, teams should only be allowed to select game day squads from their wider training groups. I would also like teams to just support their own players more. There shouldn’t have to be an import restriction for the likes of Smith and Fraser to get contracts over Dehaney and Haythornthwaite.mcleodParticipantOctober 28, 2020 at 2:47 pmPost count: 1136
Hmmm al_ex. New Zealand do a massive amount for world Netball.
I think Netball NZ paying for the England teams hotel costs while in isolation, the NZ Govt allowing England to tour.
Netball NZ has over the years, had Malawi, Jamaica, Fiji, Samoa play lead up events prior to world or Com Games.
When was the last time Australia actually played a series against another country.
I saw some very average play from some of the SSN imports this year.Netballcrazy1ParticipantOctober 28, 2020 at 2:53 pmPost count: 1910
I think there needs to be a balance between contributing to world netball’s improvement, which I totally agree with, and allowing the next crop of Australian players through (I also do think Australia’s competition has probably played one of the largest roles, that a single competition has, in developing players from all around. That’s not to say other competitions and nations aren’t contributing though). Although we do have the strongest competition in the world, it shouldn’t be at the expense of young players. I think a reasonable import cap/rule would best balance this issue. Something that limits the number of imports per third is a great idea and then an overall limit per team would also be useful. I am hoping that with the competition’s expansion in the next few years, the problem of Australian’s not getting opportunities will diminish.
I also agree that the ANL should get some more attention but I’m not sure if having it at a different time of year would be helpful because when ANL players who are TPs have previously been promoted to the SSN game-day teams, they’ve been fit and ready to go.
Netballcrazy1ParticipantOctober 28, 2020 at 2:59 pmPost count: 1910
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mcleod, I think it depends on how you look at it.
The way I see it, the SSN and the Netball Australia/Diamonds are a bit more distinct. Suncorp ultimately controls the rules of the Australian competition (e.g. the super shot) and I would say that SSN has been one of the biggest contributors to world netball in recent years. I would also agree that Netball NZ and Ferns have an equally massive role by playing teams such as Fiji, Malwai, Samoa.
Then I look to the ANZ Premiership and the Diamonds. To me, these two things have a lesser contribution to world netball in comparison to the Ferns and the SSN, I also wish Australia played teams outside the Top 4. I hope that I’ve communicated this the right way, iI am not trying to come off rude about any of it but I wasn’t sure how ex\actly to articulate what I’m trying to say
al_exParticipantOctober 28, 2020 at 3:16 pmPost count: 951
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England won a World Cup since SSN. Malawi beat NZL at the Commonwealth Games since SSN. South Africa made Top 4 at the World Cup since SSN. The reason Australia doesn’t host Pacific Island teams is because of how much longer and intense the pre-season for SSN is than for ANZP. The Pacific Island teams have also been performing more poorly over recent years so it’s questionable how much they have really been assisted by the opportunities to play against the Ferns. If ANZP didn’t count Pasifika players as imports then maybe I would have a different opinion.
I really respect what NZL has done. I love watching ANZP because of the different style of play and NZL has some phenomenally talented players. NZL netball really suffered during the later years of the ANZC and it’s great to see how they’ve returned to be world leaders in the sport. But if all the top countries took the approach that NNZL did, we would go back to the days where Netball tournaments were mind-numbingly uncompetitive and the only match of interest was Australia vs NZL in the Gold Medal Match. I personally don’t think it’s much of an achievement to be dominant in a sport that’s a two-horse race, so I would rather that the Diamonds have to fight hard (and lose) in a deep competition than win easily in a shallow one. I also doubt the sport would be commercially viable in Australia without a lot of the imports. Housby, Wallace, Mentor, Kumwenda, Aiken, Harten etc. are some of the most popular players in their teams with fans.
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