Vixens drama! Fever v Vixens called off!!!

Vixens drama! Fever v Vixens called off!!!2021-06-25T15:13:07+10:00

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  • mcleod
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    I would you thought the SSN board, would be updating people. But it’s the same old crap. Say nothing and hope it all goes away

    Netballcrazy1
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    Soooooooooooooooooooo unprofessional, no other elite competition would behave like this. It’s just a bad look for the sport too, gives the impression (especially to people new to the sport) that there’s no oversight by the league and clubs can go do whatever they want.

    mcleod
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    They call themselves the best Netball comp in the world!!!. Yet Fever v Vixens is scheduled for midnight Aug 1st WTF
    Scroll down to round 13 Sat July 31st Magpies v Swifts @ Silverdome at 12am WTAF!!
    And the Swifts v Fever at Ken Rosewell arena again at 12am. Midnight !!!!!.

    Yet in New Zealand the Pulse v Tactix Rd 11 game, has had 3 different dates, now scheduled for July 9th.

    And a message from the Pulse people, saying “we are grateful to the ANZ premiership, Netball NZ and the Tactix for working together to reschedule the match”

    How can the SSN be taken seriously when they put those centre pass times on their match schedule.

    Ian Harkin
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    JR, I’d say it’s not actually “scheduled” for Aug 1. That’s probably just a generic date that they’ve moved it to for now. A bit like how in that same round, there are a couple of games which haven’t been given a start time yet, so they’re both listed as starting at 12am (midnight!)

    Tully
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    There is a good article on the ABC titled “ The continuation of women’s sport comes at a high cost for Victorian Super Netball players”.

    Collingwood and Vixens players received a $200 per week payment for the week’s they were away. This is a substantial reduction in income for many players compared to what they would normally receive for their employment away from netball. Some players earn as much as $75k for their netball contract but that can reduce to $33k as a minimum contract. Of course players like Samason and Mundy aren’t on contract so most likely wouldn’t even be receiving the minimum contract. Whilst not in the article I know that Hannah Mundy as an example has a part time job at Spotlight which she would not have been able to do for the last 5 weeks or even still now she is back in Melbourne due to stay at home orders. Samason has lost her coaching income.

    All players are on stay at home orders which of course limits income from outside of netball as well. I am sure there are some players with employment that they can do from home but a lot wouldn’t have.

    Rebekah Webster (Vixens GM) also raises the support systems. Acknowledging they do what they can but in comparison to say Storm they just don’t have the same resources.

    Article says NA are looking into alternatives for the remainder of the year including another hub.

    TB
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    Thanks for that insight @Tully

    I was definitely vocal and against the three players going on vacation. And TBH I still feel like that should not have been allowed.

    However now hearing the full stories of the situation, I definitely take back (more so the harshness of) my comments. They followed all the rules, it wasn’t their fault that Covid strikes.

    I am a Fever fan (more so cause I live in WA, and I always follow the local team). They did handle this situation badly. Very unprofessional of them. It doesn’t look good for them, especially with the breach of salary cap incident still looming over them.

    Netballcrazy1
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    Wow, what a significant pay reduction. Really hurts knowing that netball players struggle so much with their income in normal circumstances but in light of COVID, some players are making less than $29 a day.

    Tully
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    Not sure where they are going but Housby’s Instagram stories has them leaving QLD.

    englishrose21
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    Was just about to comment this Tully! Seems like a hurried exit and can’t see anything about where they’re going.

    Where do you think they’re headed?
    Can’t see there being games this week 😞

    Seems crazy that with how bad covid has been in the UK and still during the VNSL we managed to get through with only 2 games being unable to be played. Granted it was a centralised venue but we knew it wouldn’t happen otherwise!!

    Netballcrazy1
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    Swifts are off to Melbourne as are Lightning, Giants, and Firebirds.
    My bet is that as the most major city that is not yet in lockdown, matches could move there for the next week or so or even the hub might be located there (Adelaide could be another option tbh but I doubt it as the facilities are quite minimal).

    englishrose21
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    Oh that’s good. I wonder if they’ll allow crowds. Good news for Victorians if they do.
    Although I bet they’ll all be missing the Queensland weather

    ctree
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    I have read through this entire thread and I must say I found the posts far more refreshing than what I have seen online elsewhere about this issue.

    As a Fever fan, I was disappointed with their petulant post.

    However, as a Netball fan, I am more disappointed with the fact that the issue we are more worried about is that one club wrote something that wasn’t worded nicely. Rather than, players were allowed to make decisions to put the competition into jeopardy. Fever should be upset the game didn’t go ahead – it has huge financial implications on the club and the sport as a whole. If we want our female athletes to get paid appropriately we need to fight for home games with big crowds at times that bring in memberships.

    I think the comment “Fever are the new Magpies” is what has really brought this home for me. I am completely guilty of hating on Collingwood as a Club in the past. They had financial backing from a big AFL club, poached a heap of amazing players – and in classic Australian Tall Poppy Syndrome – we all wanted them to fall down.

    The same is happening to West Coast Fever. Their success in recent years has brought huge crowds at Perth Arena that exceed other live netball games. It should be celebrated by the Netball community. We should want our game to grow.

    There’s so much vitriol against the club, that instead of standing up and saying “women athletes should be paid more, clubs should be able to support athletes to help family come over” we have turned the salary breech issue into an “infighting” situation within the netball community. People would rather Fever play for no incentive this year, than possibly overcome point deductions and still succeed.

    Anyway, the point of my long post is possibly more just reflection on the state of netball at the moment. I’m a passionate fan but so much of what I read online is turning me away from the sport. There’s just so much hate directed toward Fever. Their PR team needs some serious re-education and their management screwed up a few years back – but the current squad of players are pouring their heart and soul into the game and it feels so wrong to see all these “Team Girls” ads when I watch the games on TV meanwhile the netball community are gunning for them to fail.

    I thought it was an East Coast/West Coast thing for a while there, but I don’t think it is anymore. I really hope it’s not just what we expect from women’s sport.

    JR
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    ctree, how can you explain the comments by Sue Gaudion and Stacey Marinkovich on this. Not sure their statements are contributing positively to women’s sport.

    ctree
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    I’ve seen Sue’s ABC Radio segment which I think explained things well in terms of the bigger implications of missing the game. I haven’t seen Stacey’s statements though. Where were those made? Do you have a link?

    I wonder if instead of saying: “We are devastated that Sunday’s game has to be cancelled as the Melbourne Vixens have refused to travel to Perth for our fixture at RAC Arena.” They’d instead said: “We are devastated that Sunday’s game has to be cancelled as the Melbourne Vixens are unable to bring their full squad and chose not to travel to Perth with a reduced squad for our fixture at RAC Arena.” Things would have been received differently?

    The latter is basically the same statement, just said with much more finesse, and is less accusatory.

    JR
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    It’s in the West Australian ctree. She thinks Vixens should have forfeited.

    I think she and Gaudion have forgotten the sacrifice Vixens and Magpies made in the 2020 season, and other teams.

    Also, I am pretty sure there would have been no crowd at the game last week if it’d gone ahead.

    Finally, Fever have had to travel to Melbourne only about a week later.

    Sure, they could have made a less accusatory, and factually wrong comment. I think that’s the point of this thread. Even Fever made an apology, albeit for ‘offence’, not for making their accusatory comment. Where does such an accusatory comment fit in with women’s sport?

    Sue is a commentator and should put her green bias away rather than wearing it on her sleeve.
    And Stacy is ALSO the National coach. These points have already been made in this thread.

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