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      Most England fans are excited by this squad because our CWG squad was a disaster and that NWC silver win was because we had an easy ride to the semis and played a NZ that is suffering the same issues as England: WA, GA and C are the big weak spots. Both sides have excellent defensive units, but no matter how much ball is won, its getting the goals that’s a struggle. Yes Nweke was injured, but what if that happens again? Considering both NZ and Eng went into last cycle as CWG and NWC title holders, the results for 2022/3 are hardly a justification that they way both teams have bought through new players has worked for them. England has had a lot of retirements and frankly there should be more. Why send a squad of only 56 caps to NZ and not against SA? Maybe it’s because New Zealand play a particular style and where else where our players get a taste of this? Especially when the WYC was cancelled due to covid. Do you not think your young players should be getting a focus too? This Roses squad isn’t a 7 player Jamaica, it’s a squad of players many feel should have been in our WC squad, its a squad that actually has WAs that don’t play GA and C that aren’t aged 40 or don’t play C in the NSL. No one expected a pandemic would close the Netball world for 2 years, that could happen again. England twice took a squad to NZ during the Pandemic made up of NSL players, one of which won the Series. Were they rubbish to watch? To say that England saw the Jamaica series and thought we’d just send a development team is quite offensive given the sacrifices England staff and players made to travel to NZ in 2020 and 2021. As for the headcoach not being there? Well a majority of England fans don’t even want her in the job. I’m genuinely surprised NZ fans are letting themselves be sucked into the bad-mouthing of the England Squad rather than asking what the SF response is to ensure in this new cycle you are picking up golds and trophy’s because the current plan certainly hasn’t worked.

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        I think that was the most competitive Fast5 for years. Loved it. Like the new powerplay format, it’s sped the game up even faster. It’s also interesting how the different nations used this tournament. Jamaica, England and SA using it to get young players out in a tournament environment whose WYC got cancelled. Uganda using this as WC prep for their team is a clever move for them. Not sure what NZ were looking to get out of this, but for once Australia took it seriously and put out a strong team for Fast5.

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          England Roses are a car crash. Thirlby hadn’t won a superleague title since the other clubs got better, and it shows. Fadoju playing GK when she’s really a GD & WD. The actual young GK (Harvey) can’t even get into the matchday x12 because having as many WDs as possible is more important. Metcalf’s form has been going down ever since she moved to Swifts, two injured players get picked for the tour instead of two young players that missed out on the WYC. The one C-WA that has come through the Roses Programme has defected to Scotland and now Fisher is “unavailable”. The Roses Programme has so many WD-C there’s no room for WA-C, and SDL and Joseph aren’t allowed on court just in case Metcalf and Housby wake up. At this rate England will be finishing 5th at WC.

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            Fadoju isn’t going to be Geva’s replacement because she’s not really a GK. Her forte is GD or WD. I want to see Joseph more at WA as Metcalf is too easily shut down, and Housby had been off the boil for quite some time. Also need to see Tchine on court, especially after the Fisher fiasco. Harvey also needs quality court time. Get the young ones on, even if it means losing the Test Series. Roses need a WC team of young talent, not the samd old faces

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              In response to the Olympics question its likely Team GB would be the England squad. This is what we do for Curling in the Winter Olympics (It’s the Scotland team) and as it would be a new sport in the Olympics and funding in Team GB is ruthlessly results based then I’d expect it to be the England team in a Team GB dress.

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                Still confused as to why Thirlby got the job over Greenway. Feels like it will be Harten, Housby and Haythornthwaite that will get England over the line, not because the head coach is making great strategic choices.

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                  She might have chosen not to trial for this series. I was under the impression that she turned down playing VNSL 2021 offers,but was planning on playing in 2022 and would have ability to trial through the pathway used by other players, such as Usoro-Brown.

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                    Magic have already tried the bringing on local talent/inexperienced shooters. They really haven’t got the time to go back to that if they want to attract a better grade of player. Look how Crampton jumped the Steel ship after years of wrong shooters. CBass for Magic could have been great but Kara rarely played, and defence was made up of 3 GK. The whole team needs a clear out and rebuild. If CBass isn’t staying then they need another experienced strike shooter and I’m not sure there is one available, so they may well need to import one. Either look to VNSL (Cardwell) or someone fed up of bench sitting in SSN (Proscovia). Getting Mes as the other shooting partner would also work.

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                      She’s probably going to play for Team Bath. This might be why Team Bath still haven’t announced their squad.

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                        I wish Thirby’s phone line had died. Why make Parsons entry onto the court more difficult by changing another player at the same time? And that line up for the third quarter, utterly stupid and took far too long to change. You could tell in that 4th quarter the Roses morale had gone.

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                          I wondered about Josh Bowring. I assumed he was NZ based so was surprised he wasn’t available. However, I think the umpires did as Storm Purvis predicted. They went over their game to see why the penalty stats were so loaded in NZ favour. Overall I think they’ve done a good job, except for the Watson shoves.

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                            Oh, and its about time the umpires started noticing Watson shoving Fisher to the floor. Two very obvious shoves and umpires ignored it. Not impressed.

                            The Wilson shoving thing. Assume as its before the C pass the only thing the Umpire can do us issue a warning/caution?

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                              I think its just a reverse of the WC. England and Australia just weren’t used to NZ style/zone anymore. I’d say this Ferns squad isn’t used to the tough man on man marking. Don’t forget you’re playing without the “fossils”.

                              England could have won that, but no a ridiculous unnecessary change.

                              Once Guthrie was off injured I would have liked Oyesola back on at WD.

                              Saunders and Crampton…
                              I think the problem is that they’ve played for so long together they’ve developed bad habits and become too predictable. I think Saunders Will definitely benefit from playing with a whole new attack line up next season.

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                                Best for Venter, she’s going to get far more court time in one VNSL season than she got in her entire two years in SSN.

                                I hope Sky broadcast a Saracens v Pulse game.

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                                  Same for me. An actual WA at WA. And Cardwell not at GA…. Ever again.

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