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      A very enjoyable pair of games to watch. The new rules were interesting, and apart from the new dangerous play penalty, had little impact on game play.

      Re Heffernan at GA, perhaps this was one of the things Dame Noelene learned after the NZ v Aus practice match on Friday?

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        Sarahk90 I think that was part of it, but also NZ, Jamaica, NZ men, Malawi and (to some extent) Australia used a tall GS as a target for the longer-than-usual range feeds from the depleted fast5 mid court. If you have Grace, Romelda, Joyce or Junior under the post, you can be pretty confident that they will grab the ball when you just piff it in. Then, rather than shoot a 1 themselves, they looked to distribute back out to their GA in the 2/3 zones (rebound and repeat as necessary).

        This works better if you can set up an early lead, allowing the GS to take the safe one, rather than risk a pass out that’s not quite on. If you’re trailing, then you really have no choice but to take that riskier pass out. And, of course, the defenders know that.

        My impression on the day was that Austin and Levi took a higher proportion of their teams scoring shots, in part because they just needed to defend a lead, but also more of their trips into the circle added to their score. Good for team confidence. (I haven’t checked the stats for these bold assertions – perhaps Erin and Aaron on Real v Feel will fact check me. This is just how it appeared on the day).

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          Well, that was a very enjoyable day at the netball. Australia definitely exceeded my expectations (not something I’ll ever be complaining about). Going in to the tournament I was prepared for a 3/4 playoff, and the first game v Jamaica sort of confirmed that. All good thereafter though!

          I had hoped for a good showing from Malawi, as this format does tend to reduce the disadvantage of not being very strong. They, however, still have mountains left to climb.

          Re comments above: Australia’s advantage of playing with the deplorable supershot is in knowing not to use it unless you have to (or just happen to be standing at long range), and in knowing how to prevent opposing shooters from easily accessing the outside shots. Having built an early lead, shoot easy one pointers to maintain it, and force opponents to attempt higher risk shots to close the gap, and rebound well. Sounds easy, but really isn’t. And leaves you open to last minute losses when fortune favours the last minute 6-pointer (cf. game 1 v Jamaica).

          Erwin and Garrett were outstanding in defence. Austin was solid as a target in attack, as were Nweke, Aiken, Levi and Reed (who surely deserved her player of the tournament award). Dwan and Horjus both played exceptionally well, as did Taylor and Mundy who were just too fast for the Kiwi (and most other) midcourters.

          The speed of the game really puts pressure on the umpires, and it was interesting watching them share calls differently to usual to accomodate that speed. (A goal third each and shared centre third, often with one focussing on the goal circle, while the other managed shenanigans around the transverse line.)

          Also, after the year she has had, really pleased to see Nicole Richardson take home a trophy as head coach.

          Overall, a lot of fun. Maybe next year…

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            I neglected to mention in my post about yesterday, the awesome opening and welcome ceremony. Not sure if it made it into the tv coverage, but it was worth the journey over just for the welcome!

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              So. My first day at a Fast5 tournament. Firstly, it was LOUD. Well done Christchurch. Started and ended with what were for me the two best games of the day Jamaica d Australia, and Australia d NZ. In between, things went from engrossing and skilled to SA v Jamaica (48 penalties, 24 turnovers and 20 missed shots in 24 minutes play really doesn’t do it for me). Fast5 as a concept suffers a bit too much from the element of chance for my liking. Or, if yours is one of the weaker teams, perhaps that’s a benefit. In any case, that’s the game so best to enjoy the spectacle.

              And there was much to enjoy. In particular, the performances of unknown or little known players.
              For Australia, very impressed by Mundy and Erwin, both of whom have a long Diamonds career in their future. Neil, of whom I’ve heard much and seen nothing, was impressive in England’s first game, less so in the later games. Reed, Thacker and especially Oyesola looked to be the standouts there.

              For NZ, Nweke of course, but also impressed by Malesala. For Jamaica, Allison was outstanding and deserved her PoM awards. Smit for SA was notable, as was Retief, particularly v Jamaica. For Malawi, Mvula carries the side, and the effort of doing so much is not good for the team. A lot of work wil be needed to bring the new generation up to the level of the players who are in the latter years of their careers.

              Both men’s games were excellent to watch. I’m not sure the umpires have had a lot of experience with the pace and athleticism of men’s netball – a fair few decisions in both games seemed to be driven by a disbelief that some extraordinary feat of athleticism could have been performed without breaking some sort of rule, rather than by a rule actually being broken. No results were affected by this educational experience.

              All in all a good day. Looking forward to tomorrow.

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                It’s a beautiful sunny morning here in Christchurch. Is any one else from the forum attending the games today?

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                  They will apply to all competitions and leagues, amateur and professional. Although individual competitions may choose to vary, as they do now.

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                    in reply to: 2023 SSN ROUND 2 #1356346

                    Also, what if that Centre pass was turned over and Collingwood had scored and went on to win? Same error – should it still be a draw?

                    Was there an inquiry when there were two consecutive Centre passes in Round six of 2021? If so, whaT changed as a result? (Also a game won by Vixens with a shot after the final whistle)

                    Has the SSN decision to penalize players delaying the return of the ball to the Centre this season resulted in too little time to notice the wrong Centre has the ball?
                    An umpire making an error on a Centre pass is rare – but still happens several times a season. Both umpires being wrong on the same Centre pass is even rarer – there have been over 10,000 Centre passes correctly called since it last happened in SSN. Should we slow down all Centre passes, check with more people each time to prevent such a rare (but entirely predictable) error?

                    It was a major error (after all, it seems to have wiped out a seven goal lead) but need to look at the overall system to see what would reduce the likelihood of such errors, what would catch them before they reached the point of being irreversible, and what other consequences would such changes to the system have.

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                      Betteridge’s law of headlines is an adage that states: “Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no.”

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                        it isn’t ‘new’ money. It comes from the existing Visit Victoria budget, and would have been spent on promoting tourism to Victoria in one way or another.

                        I suspect they were already in discussions for hosting the Grand Final when the Hancock saga hit the headlines, and had a revelation about what they could get for just $15 million. (Cheap, considering what is spent on the F1 Grand Prix, Spring Racing Carnival, AFL, or even buying hosting rights for State of Origin rugby league. The last Tasmanian sponsorship of Hawthorn in the AFL was $20 million over 5 years, by way of comparison).

                        For overseas visitors, Australia is Uluru, Great Barrier Reef and Sydney Opera House. Getting visitors to factor in a trip that includes places over 1000km from the big three sites is hard. The Diamonds sponsorship gets “Visit Victoria” into line of sight in the NZ, UK, and South African markets, over the four years leading up to the Victorian Commonwealth games. I reckon they’ve a good expectation of getting a very good return on their investment with this.

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                          Link to stats reports also online, but I think the spam filter is blocking the link when I try to post it.

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                            I haven’t seen any, but the B2022 games app has stats reports for individual players , teams and aggregates. Not as detailed as Champion, and not necessarily the same definitions for stats, but still very interesting.

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                              That non-call on Braz for stepping was because she didn’t step. She’s just very quick! https://twitter.com/tensepast_/status/1556436270062059520?s=21&t=1xr-lahkqCo5AanyIDib9Q

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                                Given the number of players they had out, that is a very impressive result by Bath

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                                  in reply to: 2021 SSN ROUND 9 #1327660

                                  Very spread out. At least two seats between groups, empty row in front and behind each group. Every section is open except the block behind team benches. Maybe 800-1000 people in the stadium

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